{"id":4410,"date":"2022-06-21T09:30:09","date_gmt":"2022-06-20T23:30:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/?p=4410"},"modified":"2023-06-20T12:20:41","modified_gmt":"2023-06-20T02:20:41","slug":"effective-empathising-with-mentalising","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/effective-empathising-with-mentalising\/","title":{"rendered":"Effective Empathising with Mentalising"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Episode 75 &#8211; Effective Empathising with Mentalising<\/h2>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/webplayer.whooshkaa.com\/episode\/1010925?theme=light&amp;enable-volume=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"190\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; 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\t\t\t\r\n\t});\t\t\r\n<\/script>\t\t\r\n\t<\/div><\/p>\n<p><strong>This Week&#8217;s Links<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/understanding-key-to-wellbeing\/\">Chris&#8217;s Geelong Advertiser article on mentalising<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/institute4healthyliving.com\/2017\/05\/30\/mentalisation-parenting-attachment\/#:~:text=Mentalising%20is%20the%20process%20by,It%20is%20thinking%2C%20about%20thinking%E2%80%A6\">What is mentalisation?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\">The Presenters<\/h3>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3881 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Geelong-Psychologist-Chris-Mackey.-Rowan-Mackey-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"454\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Geelong-Psychologist-Chris-Mackey.-Rowan-Mackey-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Geelong-Psychologist-Chris-Mackey.-Rowan-Mackey-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Geelong-Psychologist-Chris-Mackey.-Rowan-Mackey-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Geelong-Psychologist-Chris-Mackey.-Rowan-Mackey-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Geelong-Psychologist-Chris-Mackey.-Rowan-Mackey-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\" \/>\n<p><strong>Rowan Mackey<\/strong> is a content producer and digital creative. After studying sports media and law at the University of Canberra, he found himself drawn to digital media after attending the first conference for podcasters in the southern hemisphere, We Are Podcast in 2016. He is also the principal of Easygoing Digital, where he has been involved in over 500,000 podcast downloads as a presenter and producer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_04xlpA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><span class=\"JsGRdQ\">He currently produces the official <a href=\"https:\/\/www.geelongcats.com.au\/podcasts\">Geelong Cats AFL and AFLW podcasts<\/a>\u00a0and is a producer of the TV show\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/destinationhappiness.com\/\">Destination Happiness<\/a><\/em>\u00a0airing nationally in Australia on Channel 9 and Internationally with the Discovery Channel. He has also worked with notable organisations such as The Geelong Grammar School and Lyons Construction.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Rowan is the Digital Media Manager at Chris Mackey and Associates.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Chris Mackey<\/strong>\u00a0is a clinical and counselling psychologist and Fellow of The Australian Psychological Society with 40 years\u2019 psychotherapy experience. The second edition of Chris\u2019s book,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.synchronicityunwrapped.com.au\/\">The Positive Psychology of Synchronicity: Enhance Your Mental Health with the Power of Coincidence<\/a>, was released internationally in August 2019.<\/p>\n<p>Chris is also the resident psychologist for TV show\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/destinationhappiness.com\/\"><em>Destination Happiness<\/em><\/a>, where he presents the \u201cHappy Mind\u201d segment, involving brief tips based on the science of positive psychology. He also writes a regular opinion column for The Geelong Advertiser and is the resident psychologist on K-Rock radio in the mornings.<\/p>\n<p>Chris was the recipient of the 2019 Australian Allied Health Impact Award for his clinical research and training, media involvement and for authoring a book on positive psychology and synchronicity.<\/p>\n<p>Get in touch with Chris and Rowan \u2013\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:podcast@chrismackey.com.au\">podcast@chrismackey.com.au<\/a><\/p>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-2858 size-medium aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Chris-Mackey-Rowan-Mackey-1-300x200.png\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Chris-Mackey-Rowan-Mackey-1-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Chris-Mackey-Rowan-Mackey-1.png 600w\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/h3>\n<p><strong>For More Episodes of Lockdown: Character Strengths and Silver Linings\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"TmQK2RHSVV\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/podcast-2\/\">Psych Spiels and Silver Linings<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Psych Spiels and Silver Linings&#8221; &#8212; Chris Mackey\" src=\"https:\/\/www.chrismackey.com.au\/podcast-2\/embed\/#?secret=PReQlBlgSN#?secret=TmQK2RHSVV\" data-secret=\"TmQK2RHSVV\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Episode 75 &#8211; Effective Empathising with Mentalising \ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff Chris and Rowan discuss the topic of mentalisation, which is about how we can best empathise with others. 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